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  • I was just thinking about it and realized that the two locations in the Stop & Shop shopping center are in Glendale. So I guess if you want to be technical about it the Daily New is correct. But we all know they’re still pretty damn close.

    Posted by quest577
    on October 19th, 2007 at 9:22 am

  • I have to say I would honestly prefer a nice little funky cafe… with maybe some music on the weekend or something, over a Starbucks.

    Posted by KGCritter
    on October 19th, 2007 at 11:10 am

  • Gee, I don’t get this association of Starbuck’s and prestige. There’s one located in Woodside, diagonally across the street from a housing project. I don’t see how this Starbuck’s affects the neighborhood’s overall appeal or status.

    Posted by jhdomster
    on October 19th, 2007 at 4:27 pm

  • Though this certainly doesn’t apply to Forest Hills, a previously desolate and/or lousy neighborhood is generally considered to have “arrived” when it gets a Starbucks. Case in point: Harlem, which got its first Starbucks to much fanfare about 10 years ago, then lost it and is only now getting one again. Starbucks is an upscale retailer and picks its locations carefully, so it means something when they put one in your neighborhood.

    I didn’t realize that Stop ‘n’ Shop was technically Glendale, but their website says it’s true! Well, five is still pretty impressive.

    KGcritter, I’d prefer a funky cafe, too, but that ain’t happening.

    Posted by Steve
    on October 19th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

  • jhdomster, Starbucks isn’t cheap, so you WILL NOT find them in the ghetto. Never saw one in Jamaica or East New York. They analyze a neighborhood before they move in.

    Posted by Tom
    on October 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm

  • And we are in deep need of analysis!

    Posted by bobbyrab
    on October 19th, 2007 at 4:37 pm

  • Steve, as I’ve posted before, I’m a Jackson Heights resident where lately there’s been much buzz about our community getting its first Starbucks. Although I welcome this chain in the neighborhood because it offers me more choice as a consumer, I don’t know what a grand opening would do for the nabe over all in terms of “having arrived”. I do believe that it will help from a commercial standpoint to bring more notable retail offerings to our community, but then I see the Woodside store and its new neighbor Dollar General. I don’t want that type of notoriety. We have enough of that garbage in the nabe already. Have I waffled enough? Hahaha….

    Posted by jhdomster
    on October 19th, 2007 at 4:42 pm

  • Another independent coffee shop? Which coffee shop are you referring to?

    Posted by Jen
    on October 21st, 2007 at 2:04 pm

  • Anyone looking for independent coffee shops can go to Bliss Gourmet Coffee Shop on the NY Platform of the LIRR Station in Kew Gardens. There are lots of chairs, pretty good food, and OK coffee. There is also outdoor seating. A few times a year there are poetry readings, talent shows, etc. It is a great place. It’s kind of a like a Luke’s Diner (anyone get that reference?) for KG.

    p.s. why does everyone on the FH blogs keep wishing for cool and hip people to move in? seriously, what is that all about? i could go on and on about this, but i’ll hold my tongue for now.

    Posted by kew_resident
    on October 21st, 2007 at 10:11 pm

  • Whenever I’ve tried to check out Bliss.. usually in the evening, it’s closed. Are they only open during commuter rush hours or something?

    Posted by KGCritter
    on October 21st, 2007 at 11:32 pm

  • Sorry, what I meant was that there isn’t going to be a cool and independent coffee shop opening anytime soon.

    Resident, have you ever heard of a guy named Richard Florida? He’s an economist who theorizes, backed up by a lot of evidence, that “cool and hip people” bring economic development and vibrancy, and places that fail to attract them become stagnant. Eventually the non-cool people leave, too — what’s happened to the Rust Belt and much of Upstate New York over the past 25 years is a good example. This is why I’m excited about the new Concrete Jungle store, even though I would personally never even walk in the front door.

    Posted by Steve
    on October 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 am

  • A good thing about Starbucks is that they tend to actually care about aesthetics. It’s a good sign that the building might not be as horrible as we all fear…

    Posted by peterd
    on October 22nd, 2007 at 5:18 pm

  • From the article:

    “That whole area is going to be inundated with traffic,” said Frank Gulluscio, district manager of Community Board 6.

    Inundated with traffic? Because of a bank and a Starbucks? Sheesh. Does Mr. Gulluscio have anything better to do than complain about everything?

    Posted by peterd
    on October 22nd, 2007 at 5:20 pm

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Coffee available in Forest Hills

Posted by Steve on Friday, October 19th, 2007

The Daily News confirmed two more FoHi Starbucks today — we’ve previously reported the one in what is currently a gaping hole near Union Turnpike, but the big news is the pending location in the on-again-off-again shopping center on Metropolitan. The News seems to think it’s on again for good, and that’s good enough for me.

I don’t drink coffee and am genetically predisposed to hate soul-sucking chains like Starbucks, but like it or not, it is a prestige business for a neighborhood, and we’re not likely to get another independent coffeehouse anytime soon. I take it as a point of pride that this will be Forest Hills’ seventh Starbucks. (The News says fifth, but they’re oddly not counting the new Union Turnpike one that they themselves mention later in the story, and they’re also forgetting, I’d guess, the one inside Stop ‘n’ Shop.) Eat it, every other outer-borough neighborhood and Manhattan neighborhood above 100th Street!

The new shopping center, which is sure to be an architectural disaster but is still better than an auto-body shop, will also house “a well-known bank.” Thank God!