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• OPen the windows when the a/c is broken. Otherwise you’re riding around in a stale hot car…ughhh.

  Posted by mrmarootie
  on July 22nd, 2008 at 4:53 pm

• I hear that the E and F lines will get new cars eventually but not sure when.

  Older R32’s are being phased out. R46’s are being refurbished and could move to other lines than the E and F in the future.

  Posted by Subway cars
  on July 22nd, 2008 at 5:20 pm

• There is no need for a log. Older R32’s phase 2 are being phased out and replaced with Phase 1. R46’s are being refurbished and are in overhaul mode as we speak. I think the terminology used was SMB.

  Try http://www.nytransitforums.com since they have detailed info about what is going on. Eventually the E and F lines will have brand new subway cars. The question is when the R160B or R179 will makes its way to the system. It could be a few years away still.

  Posted by No need for log
  on July 22nd, 2008 at 5:24 pm

• Correction on the website. http://www.nyctransitforums.com

  Posted by Correction
  on July 22nd, 2008 at 5:25 pm

• The Queens Blvd IND Subway is 72 years this year. Not only are the stations decrepit and beg an overhaul (modernization), but the line uses some of the oldest equipment in the system. Those corrugated-sided E trains are the oldest in NYC.
  Letters to Congressman Anthony Weiner (former US congressional transportation committee chairman) and Mr. Lee Sander have yet to be replied to.
  The 700,000 daily riders, the second busiest behind the Lexington, have every right to be outraged. BUT, we must all write, call, and harass those in charge until we get some semblance of civilized service.
  Go to any other major national or international city and see what can be done—clean, cool, sleek, and prompt, all on a smaller budget.

  Posted by Visionary
  on July 22nd, 2008 at 5:33 pm

• The MTA has agreed to cutting the budget as well as a fare increase. There is a meeting scheduled tomorrow morning I believe and a hearing on federal funding which is public in August.

  The E trains are the R32 and are of stainless steel design and are very reliable trains. The Phase 2 have squeaking breaks while the phase I cars do not.

  The orders for new subway cars have already been in place with Kawasaki and Alstom. Alstom is slow on delivery while Kawasaki has delivered better cars and at a faster pace to boot. It is unclear if the R160B option 1 will go on the E or F at this time. The cars coming in now have gone to the N and the W. The next batch will go to the Q in the fall. The next batch could possibly go to the E or F after that. It is unclear at this time.

  Posted by Letter Writing
  on July 22nd, 2008 at 6:37 pm

• Letter Writing won’t speed up the process for new cars which is in place or account for the budget shortfalls since this is where the whole problem lies right now.

  Posted by Letter Writing
  on July 22nd, 2008 at 6:39 pm

• R160s are coming in all the time!

  Posted by R160's
  on July 22nd, 2008 at 7:07 pm

• Where are these new cars? The E trains are old, hot and loud. The F’s are newer and better, but still get hot. Of course if this were a Manhattan line, like the 1,2,3 or 4,5,6 we’d have new cars. Interesting how one of the busiest lines, the E, which serves Queens is treated as a step child and continues to have the old decrepit cars.

  Posted by KGResident
  on July 23rd, 2008 at 9:40 am

• The new cars are on order and have been for awhile. Its just a matter of time. The E/F line will be all R160 and/or R179 and will have the newest cars in the fleet once they are replaced.

  Posted by NewCars
  on July 23rd, 2008 at 9:50 am

• Alstom is shitty on deliveries and quality, the MTA has already considered suing them. Kawasaki cars are coming in all the time regularly.

  Just be patient.

  Posted by NewCars
  on July 23rd, 2008 at 9:52 am

• Patient? Why, we’ve been waiting for sooo long, yet I see new cars all the time on the 4/5/6 and 1/2/3 and the L is all new. The E, well I guess who cares, we’re Queens … and they want 8% increases and then another set of increases in 18 months following that. Perhaps if they cut their management fat by 8% they would find the money to keep the system current without strangling the ridership. Which, by the way is up so where’s that money going? Oh I forgot, the MTA keeps two sets of books.

  Posted by KGResident
  on July 23rd, 2008 at 11:20 am

• That is BS. The new cars are being added right now to the N, W and Q in the fall. The BMT/IND are getting new subway cars as we speak.

  Posted by NewCars
  on July 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 am

• I got a similar response when I wrote to the MTA asking why there are no elevators at 71st-Continental - a nabe with a very large eelderly population: be patient, their coming by 2025.

  Thanks for all this interesting and fascinating information, everyone, but as the old saying goes, “that and a token will get me on the subway!!”

  Posted by Mickie T
  on July 23rd, 2008 at 1:44 pm

• The MTA will do it before 2025 because mass transit is being heavily used and they will get more federal funding once we see a shift in presidential leadership.

  Just sit tight. More infrastructure dollars will come.

  Posted by MassTransit
  on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm

• 382 ‘B’ Division Cars (R-160 Option 2) require federal funding approval. A few of these could be put on the E or F lines. Hearing is scheduled for August. Either the last end of these or the R179 will go on the E and F. Not sure yet as to which.

  Posted by MTA Federal hearing
  on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:18 pm

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